query!

[lotesse]

To those of you who may know your Plato better than I do--

I need a passage. The one that deals with the relationship of beauty to the Good. I'm writing about fairy tales, you see, and their anxieties and investments in the reading of outside beauty as a signifier of inner worth. And I need that bi of the Republic, but I can't remember where it is. Anyone know?


eta: I'm genuinely sniffly about he news of Heath Ledger's passing. 10 Things I Hate About You was our seminal sleepover movie when I was a kid, and we sat through The Patriot on my thirteenth birthday just for him. I always admired him - even working with fluffy material he delivered wonderful performances, and his work on the meatier roles he'd started getting was breathtaking. Batman's going to be a strange sort of eulogy, and I'm sad that Terry Gilliam's Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus has lost him as its star. rip Heath.

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[hyel.livejournal.com]

Here (http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext94/repub13.txt) you can find the entire thing - can't point you to a particular passage, though. (If you want my two cents, I think Platonian philosophy is essentially flawed, but I wouldn't debate before actually reading the book.)

[lotesse]

Oh god, I despise Plato's philosophy. But it's seminal - everyone drew on it for so long that it's become one of those nasty things you have to deal with, like it or not. that's why I was begging for passages - I really don' want to have to wade back through those fugging dialogues. Blech.

[hyel.livejournal.com]

Ah, I commisserate! I kind of do want to read it, to argue it better.

[lotesse]

I had to read it all freshman year - my own fault for going to a great books college, I suppose, but I transferred out after that first year and still have a whole bagful of residual Plato issues.

[hyel.livejournal.com]

My main beef is with the Idea idea. It makes a good sentence but doesn't actually make any sense.

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