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This post over at I Blame the Patriarchy sent me into a full-on yelling freak=out. I'm not sure why it got to me so completely. It's about a book called "Babyproofing Your Marriage," aimed at women of course. A taste of its wisdom:

"The book is full of helpful tips - one of the most notorious being the ‘Five Minute Fix’ - how did you first come across this useful tactic?

Well, it’s not as if we invented it! We just realized that, as sex acts go, this one was totally undervalued by women. It wasn’t until we became overworked, time-starved mums that we saw the obvious benefits. You don’t have to take your clothes off, the time you spend on it is minimal, and your husband thinks you are a Goddess! When we mentioned the idea at one of our men’s focus groups and got a gob smacked, “Good God, that would transform my marriage” reaction, we knew we were on to something."

And just, the casualness of it. It made me want to scream. Because clearly, the way to save a marriage is for women to perform sex acts they don't enjoy on their husbands, cause that's the only reason why they keep you around. Love doesn't matter. And god only knows that female sexuality doesn't matter. It doesn't even seem to exist. No one is going to tell men that they need to give their wives oral sex everyday for the first year of any given offspring's life, or else their wives won't love them any more. It's socially accepted prostitution, and it's sickening.

I hate that women are the ones who have to take care of things. I hate that it's the wife's job, the girlfriend's job, to keep it all going. And I adore The Boy, but this kind of shit makes me absolutely terrified of getting married. Because how can we hp[e to make anything pure in such a toxic culture?

I'm writing a paper on the impossibility of love in George Eliot, and it's becoming scarily clear to me that things haven't changed as much as I would like to think since she was writing. The world still does everything it can to choke love off, covering it with priviledge and cruelty and subservience and ownership until it becomes so hopelessly hard to find anything good. Maggie Tulliver has to die before she can find perfect love. In a flood.

Date: 2007-02-19 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slashfairy.livejournal.com
ah, darlin', i read this and cried. not a damn thing's changed in 40 years, except that it's talked about a bit more openly now, and we've got the lovely internet to share our sisterly rants over. but jesus h fucking christ... so sad.

you do know about the national women's history project, right? http://www.nwhp.org/

Can I link to this out in my journal? Your post, and the one you linked to? I'd really like to bounce this all over, as much as possible. It's important.

Date: 2007-02-19 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slashfairy.livejournal.com
First you cry. Then pimp it out on your blog(s) - I have several, and will do so, am already writing as cogent and thought-out a post as I can. And then dance, dance together and sing, and work for more change and more change.

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
Margaret Mead

I love that further down in that post are both links to the 'problem' of female infants in India and Japan, and the 'problem' of being too pretty... there's an education right there, in that one thread. Links one couldn't have made to 'problems' not publicly acknowledged even 10 years ago, now there in front of everyone for the seeing and thinking about. If that makes any sense?
From: [identity profile] shiinabambi.livejournal.com
It's amusing to me that so much of the hate here is directed towards men. But behold! It was three women who wrote the book. I don't believe in marriage for various reasons, but I see nothing wrong with sharing a home and raising children together.

I also have a Boy, and he has never demanded sex of any kind. He also has no problem with pleasuring me, whether that be by going down on me, or some other way. Sure, some men are assholes.... but if a man acts that way, don't date him. Let him masturbate, I say. Or at least have the self-assurance of knowing that that prick could never have you.

I think there are a lot of harmful, toxic things in our society, but I don't think the male gender is specifically to blame for them. If anything, I see how many of them are hurt by this world every bit as much as women are. More, if you count circumcision. Sure, some things are easier, there is a prejudice against women, but there's an even stronger prejudice against men who don't fit a very tight mold. If anything, his looks, his mannerisms, are even a bit off, he is ostracized, and his will to be different beaten down. No one talks to boys, no one comforts them, they're just told to buck up and be men, even when they're two years old. Anything gentle or beautiful or expressive is forbidden....is it any wonder that so many of them become misogynists?

I consider myself a feminist, but I think that feminism, at least the brand I practice, is ultimately beneficial to men as well as women, and has the potential to liberate both. While I think some of those women make excellent points, and am proud of them, others just seem to be mean to men for the sake of being mean to men, and it's that kind of thing that makes me afraid to tell people I'm a feminist. I have to sort of suffix it with, "Oh, but I'm not the kind that wants all men castrated or anything....ha ha ha...."

As to the book, it is disgusting and vapid and so on, and it's everything certain women want to hear. Sadly, men are pawns in this one.
From: [identity profile] slashfairy.livejournal.com
That you can know and say I want that sort of love without subservience. that, so simply, and expect it to be taken as reasonable... that's a huge change.

My sons are 33 and 36, and so in the middle here- raised by a card-carrying feminist in the 70's but prey to all the attendant larger influences none-the-less. But they can talk about it, they know it's to struggle with and learn about. And that makes all the difference. Their dad thought I was nuts, and his dad thought I was foolish.

Date: 2007-02-19 07:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mariagoner.livejournal.com
Fucking hell, that's the sort of advice that make me feel sick to my skin. I mean, I understand that having a child naturally strains a couple's bond and that it's often hard to feel intimate afterwards... but shouldn't the emphasis in a loving relationship be not what you do for your partner or what he does for you... but what the two of you do together, for each other?

Love does seem impossible when it comes covered in so many restictions and so many reasons to fear the very people you lean on most, doesn't it?

Date: 2007-02-20 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mariagoner.livejournal.com
You don't have to do a thing to receive any actual pleasure yourself-- not even by masturbating while you're getting him off! Woo! DX

Date: 2007-02-19 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] schoolpsychnerd
I think I want to curl up and cry now...or hit the authors and just about everything over the head with the heaviest book I own...which is oddly the DSM.

I admit to worrying about what will happen when Brian and I have kids, if I'll become like this. However, I have some good models around me and really the only person who expects me to do everything is me. Brian even mentioned that since I'll be making more he's be open to being a stay at home dad. It's just odd to be the one putting pressure on yourself, seeing it for the stupidity that it is but to be illequped to stop it.

And I love George Eliot.

Date: 2007-02-19 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slinkhard.livejournal.com
I really like IBTP - they seem to be one of the few US feminist blogs that cover UK feminist issues, too, (I know there are dozens - I quite like Pandagon, too - and they cover all sorts of world-wide issues and events affecting women; but I thought it was awesome IBTP covered the Ipswich prostitute murders and the treatment of that by the police and media in Britain, which no other feminist blog did that I saw) since it was apparently my country that spawned the Stepfordbots writing this 'book'.

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