lookit!

[lotesse]

A meme where you draw a pig and it tells you about your personality!

...I am way too easily amused. But it's exam week and I'm tired and also? Plato stinks.

Do the pig thing, baby: http://drawapig.desktopcreatures.com/gallery/large.asp?id=970151&p=0&hof=1&q=personality+test

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[lotesse]

Because Leo Strauss took all the mildly freaky bits from the Republic and amplified them x100 into scary scary neoconservative theocracy/police state stuff, and because my clearly insane feelings of social duty have prodded me into writing a term paper about the whole mess. It's creeping me out big time.

Our Greek text last year is dedicated to Strauss. He was tight with Jacob Klein and that lot. Look him up sometime--it's pretty crazy.

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Whereas when I knock Plato it's all Plato's own fault. La la.

[lotesse]

ha

[rose-sous-globe.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I know about that mess. It sucks. Leo Strauss was not much of a scholar if he missed out on that one important point:

PLATO WAS BEING SARCASTIC!
Ahem.

I didn't know how tight he was with Klein... I don't know if Klein would be considered a Straussian. He seems too reasonable. I just read a big assignment from his Greek Mathematics and the Origin of Algebra and it was really something else. Klein gets many bonus points. Strauss gets zero.

[lotesse]

Klein was better--certainly a better scholar.

Yes, but what if Plato wasn't being sarcastic? There's nothin definitive in the text, other than the fact that the things that he says are totally awful. Eep.

[rose-sous-globe.livejournal.com]

Meh, I take Socrates' previous sarcasm as evidence enough for me. Like saying in a Monty-Pythonian pepperpot voice to Meno, "You are a pretty boy, aren't you? Yes you are! You are a pretty boy!"

Also the fact that the state was a model of a person, not a state per se. The sarcasm seems to come in because of Glaucon, who after Socrates has described a perfect little farming state, insists upon 'relishes.'

I don't think Plato was so stupid as to think human beings would actually operate in the way he specified as a group.