lotesse: (shakespeare_tempest)
throbbing light machine ([personal profile] lotesse) wrote2012-02-17 12:46 pm

take that moon and wrap it in cellophane

meme, snagged from [personal profile] astridv:

Name a fandom you know (that you think I know too!) and I'll tell you

1. The first character I first fell in love with
2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
3. The character everyone else loves that I don’t
4. The character I love that everyone else hates
5. The character I used to love but don’t any longer
6. The character I would totally smooch
7. The character I’d want to be like
8. The character I’d slap
9. A pairing that I love
10. A pairing that I despise
anghraine: vader extending his lightsaber; text: and now for the airing of grievances! (unconditional [to protect you])

[personal profile] anghraine 2012-02-21 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I hadn't thought of Luke as embracing childhood, but he does - at least, he identifies with his role as a child/his father's child (even before Empire), and with child-like qualities.

And there's that melancholy and backwards-looking, too - he's often described as invariably hopeful, but he strikes me as more often fatalistic. I get a much stronger sense of "I have to try even though it may very well turn out badly" than "everything's going to be fine!"

And the discomfort with him being tied to the nature of the fanbase - that makes perfect sense, too. And it makes sense of things like - I recently saw a discussion of the "I am a Jedi, like my father before me" moment where at least half were complaining that he throws his lightsaber away, that was stupid, he could have kept fighting why is he giving up, omg he's such a wimp etc etc. Even knowing what the fandom is like, it was pretty much ... holy comprehension failure, Batman! But it does come down to that masculinism, I think.

Also: ditto especially to stepping very carefully around Han/Leia. It's obviously based on Rhett/Scarlett, and canon barely avoids straying over the line into squicky consent issues (mostly because of ROTJ). A lot of the other stuff dances right over it. (And ditto for Obi-Wan. In ANH, you can actually see him timing his death for maximum psychological trauma, wtf.)

(And also that a lot of the discomfort with Yoda is that the text doesn't call him on it, as it does Obi-Wan - when he's the one who specifies that he didn't think Vader would ever tell Luke, making it possible that they'd NEVER have told him what he'd be doing if Vader himself hadn't acknowledged him, never mind that it also implies a ludicrous level of not-getting-it re: Anakin/Vader. And - okay, I think I agree with everything.)